Ellen,

When will you have the opposition on your program to give their view point? I would like to know if the video footage on your site is even from California? We all know people will look at tabloid headlines as it catches your attention. That is what prop 2 does.

We all have differences of opinion on what is considered inhumane. Unless you personally raised animals to the guidelines set forth by leading scientists, veterinarians, and others, how can you judge fairly what others do? Read what these people say are humane treatment and not an animal activist with a personal agenda. As with any group or person there will be an extremist who makes everyone look bad. Just like a school teacher who has sex with her students. We shouldn't base all teachers on one or the few others who have done the same out of the millions who teach.

The worst part of Prop 2 no one here has even addressed is it allows an animal activist to be the police, get a warrant, and go on a farmer's property to search for what they feel is illegal. Nothing worse than letting a child molester have free reign in a day care center to police it. The analogy isn't that far off, just more shocking as is the wording of Prop 2.

I work in agriculture and to say we treat animals inhumanely to justify the real agenda that people should be vegans is garbage. It is happening in California, because this is a liberal state. For the person who says the price won't go up. Give me a break. Pass this in other states and there won't be many eggs to buy. Veal is not grown in California and hog farmers have been putting pigs in larger pens.

What Prop 2 really is about is asking you to vote to outlaw all animals for meat consumption by taking this first step to stop it. Word it that way and many will vote no. Phrase or word it differently that animals are being mistreated, then you have many saying yes. Do read both sides and not just one to make an informed decision.

BTW, water in California is being diverted away from agriculture, so where will the food come from to feed the people? Mexico? China? California has the highest standards set forth in agriculture and land use for a safe high quality product. The food is safe, but other states and countries don't even come close to how strict rules are in California.

Think about this: in this economy with high costs, do you really think people can afford to mistreat their animals and still be in business? California agriculture is heavily regulated. Where will the food come from if not here? How many of you grow all of the food you consume? Do you have a clue how much work goes into growing or raising anything? Check out Michelle's list of items that come from animals and see if you can eliminate all of them from your life. Prop 2 is the first step in that quest.

Ellen thanks for showing this on today's program - I too am in Australia and was surprised to see this story on your show.

The worst part of this whole thing is that people actually don't know where their "meat" comes from. After actively seeking information about factory farms, slaughterhouses etc, I recently became Vegan. I feel healthier and happier knowing that I do not contribute to the abuse and slaughter of any animal for my food. However it seems that many people like to think their "hamburger" just came from a restaurant, not from an animal who lived a life of misery. Thanks Ellen for confronting viewers and encouraging them to think about where their food comes from, how animals are treated, and what can be done to help.

Yes Michelle, as you pointed out there are many many cosmetics, healthcare items, processed foods, clothing, everyday household items etc that contain animal byproducts. Luckily we have been blessed with the power of choice! It's quite easy these days to choose products that are not tested on animals and that do not contain animal byproducts. I, like Rob, just try to do my best to make at least a small difference.

Chelsea - there are a lot of great Australian resources in regards to animal rights - do a google search and spend some time reading! (try RSPCA, Animals Australia, Animal Liberation etc - they all have different views but plenty of information about what's going on in Australia)

Hi Ellen,
I'm from Australia and my 14 year old daughter Shannon is one of your biggest fans! She even wants me to send her to America so that she can go to your show! She would do anything to meet you. Any chance you could send an email to say hi to her? She's been getting into a bit of trouble at school lately & a message from you might just make her a bit happier & enjoy school bit more! We both love your show! Your wedding to Portia was so beautiful. Congratulations to you both!
Keep up the good entertaining work & we'll keep enjoying your show every day. Lee-Anne.

I must say I am totally against any type or form of animal cruelty. I am vegetarian going onto vegan.
We don't need to eat meat.
I can live without eating meat
Animals should not be born to be killed and eaten.
The sooner people realise how bad slaughter houses are the sooner it can be stopped.

This is so weird, I had a dream last night that I had the farm I always wanted which is just to own cattle, ducks etc as pets and I found one of them killed by a pocher.

I eat meat and everytime I watch animal cruelty on youtube etc., I think how can I help? and I wish I had the strength to give up meat all together. But giving up meat isn't the solution because the whole world just isn't going to stop eating meat, and all these farmers would go broke.

Most of the cruelty happens in Asia, the phillopines is the worst with their Pig Slaughtering ritual, Ellen you need to see this to believe it yourself. I was shown by a laughing friend and I started balling my eyes out and lost the plot at him. Did you know that their are farms in asia that steal pet dogs and cats from their homes and deport them to their country for slaughtering? There is a video on youtube that shows the cages of pets all squashed together WITH THEIR REGISTRATION TAGS STILL ON!!!!

With so many problems especially the ones like these, you should be going bigger, an international volenteer society needs to be advertised and easy for everyone to take a part in. With a massive global fleet of animal protection volenteers, so much more can be done in big force.

I am disgusted that we still use this method for obtaining food for humans to eat. I live in Australia and hope that all california's use their vote for proposition 2 to protect the animals and provide a more humane method. I have a puppy and an eleven yr old cat that I couldnt bear the thought that anyone could harm any animal
Shirley

PETA = PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS :)

i am from australia and i find it terrible wat they are doing and i think everyone shohuld vote yes
i was wondering wat i can do in australia for them

This Is so sad.
I started to cry when i was wacthing this.
These animals deserve much better,
Go Ellen i am proud of you keep up the great work.

YOUR A LEGEND.

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vote yes

Hi Ellen,

I am a viewer in Australia and let me say that I am appaled that this is allowed to happen to your beautiful animals.
It does not matter if they are bread for the sole purpose of feeding the population, there are much more humane ways to do this.
I am pleased that you are bringing this into your viewers homes to make them aware of the issue.
I know that our country is not perfect but perhaps the US could take a leaf from our book? You will also find that the better you treat your livestock, the higher the quality!
Thanks :)

Hi, I am so glad prop 2 was called to my attention. I am from Modesto California and was about to eat at a lovely downtown restraunt, when I saw a huge NO on Prop 2 banner, above their door. Needless to say, we did not eat there. I am wondering if small private restraunts are only against this because of fear of pricing going up. I personally feel veal is the most disgusting thing ever. I hope the prices sky rocket.

Michelle,

You seem to have too much anger and time on your hands. May God bless you with some enlightenment and more compassion. If the farms are just about supply and demand, and they are not putting animal welfare first, they shouldn't be in business anyway.

Vote YES on Prop 2.

Nancy

Ellen thank you for helping to bring these issues to light, your demographic is so important to reach - given they are primarily women with families who every day can make choices on what they can feed their families, and thus can make a difference in impacting supply.

I have made the choice to become a vegeterian based on what I have learned about factory farming. I was raised in an italian-american family where meat (of all kinds) was a staple of our diet. It was quite a big step and an adjustment for me (and for those I cook for) to stop eating meat but every day when I think about the horrors that animals endure I feel conviction, and satisfaction that my choice is making a difference (and creating a ripple effect in those around me). I once heard Moby say - to paraphrase "it came down to me making a choice to hurt something or not and I choose to not hurt an animal" its quite as simple as that.

We so often loose sight of what is on our plate and the majority of people are ignorant to how what is on their plate "got there". If each person saw a cow slaughtered or the conditions in which chickens, pigs and other animals live and die in - I would be willing to bet most everyone would make different choices about what they eat.

The first step to enlightenment on this topic and (overall improvment in your viewers health as a by - product of a non meat diet) is education. I can only hope Ellen that you continue to shed light on the horrors of factory farming, and all of the benefits of a vegeterian lifestyle.

So often and sadly people who defend animals (who we must remember cannot defend themselves) are viewed as "crazy" and dismissed, and therefore the message is lost. With folks like yourself who have a positive public image speaking on this topic I hope you can give the average american some literal food for thought and influence their thinking and choices that help achieve a more humane world for our animals.

A hearfelt thank you to you - please keep up the great work on this front, those animals who can't speak for themselves need you, and you ARE making a difference.

Dear Ellen,
I am glad you are speaking out about animal rights. I too am an animal lover and when I buy meat for my family it is always of the free-range variety.
A few years ago I too would be singing your praises as many of your fans are, but I can’t. Seeing this post is quite awkward, and to me it seems like a backwards Senator Larry Craig move to justify your other wrongs. Because your words and actions are so incongruent it is simply weird that you posted this.

Good luck with the campaign,
Allie

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
-William Shakespeare (Queen Gertrude to Hamlet)

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well said and I could not agree more,

Kendra

Thank you so much for speaking out on this issue so dear to my heart. Yes on Prop 2!!!

You're the best.

Ellen,
Thank you, thank you for having Wayne Pacelle on your show and informing us about the cruelties of factory farming. I so very much appreciate the information!

So Michelle,
As you pointed out, not all factory farming is as cruel as what is represented on this video...but yes, there are even worse conditions as well. No need to worry about the farmers who are doing right by the animals. Prop 2 will only affect those who are NOT doing right by the animals. So, it is a win, win situation! I must say that in all my research on this...there are far fewer farms that are acting with repect and compassion for the animals. For those farmers that do...I say "thank you". WE need to be the voice for these innocent beings!

Ellen,

Thank you for having Wayne Pacelle on your show to inform the public about Prop 2. This is the begining of an era where people will take into consideration the welfare of animals which is long over due. Farm animals, horses that are being slaughtered, animal abuse in puppy mills, fighting, etc.
We are here on this earth to learn compassion, not just for mankind but every living creature.

Molly Kitch

Dear Rob and the others who believe I condone the practices shown in the video, NO I DON'T. But I do believe that whom ever took the video must have searched for the most disgusting places. We have quite a few egg ranches where I live and none of them cram that many chickens into each cage. Are those cages the ideal situation, NO, but you have to remember the space allowed to farm and the out put that is expected on a daily basis. Maybe we should put our heads together and find a win, win situation for the farmer and the animal. He is just trying to feed the masses the best he can and do not forget what I said that there are always bad farmers out there that put a bad name to farming, but is not always the case, and that happens in any industry. Where were those tapes made, go protest at those ranches.
I have to admit I did not watch the video till this morning and I too was outraged at the veal calf and pig crates. With all the dairies that where in our area when I grew up the crates were three to four times that size, made out of wood, the calves were outside and had room to move around and lie down. The dairy that is here in town still uses the old crates. For the pigs, oh my! Someone said they were gestation crates, they can't be, they are to close together, there is no room for any little piglets, so who ever gave them that information, fed them a line of crap.
Rob, you misunderstood the manure thing, even in cages eggs get manure on them, but free range there will be more, which increases the chances of disease passed onto the public. Once again there needs to be a win, win solution for the animals and the farmer that will make the consumer happy. It needs to be well thought out before a demand is made without a good concrete solution, just turning the chickens loose in the area that the ranches have now won't work. Many chickens will have to be killed because the ratio of acreage to animal will be overpopulated. To put it in perspective, I think it is four head of cattle per one acre of land. I don't know what the number is for chickens.
Let me enlighten you again about the use of animal by-products Rob,since you bring such a nasty tone to your comments about me. I was just politley trying to bring the other side of the story.
Hooves, Horns and Bone:
bone charcoal for high grade steel,bone china, collegen, bone for plastic surgery, adhesive tape, geletin capsules, marsmallows, piano keys, geletin desserts (ice cream, yogurt, & jello), film, buttons, bone meal is used for fertilizer, porcelian enemael, glass and water filters.
Fatty Acids:
Components in wax products such as paraffin, crayons, candles, floor wax. Insecticides, weed killers, lubricents, oil polishers, rubber, anti freeze, plastics, fabric softners, insulation,water proofing agents, cement, chalk, glycol that's used in brake fluid,printing high gloss magazines. Steric acids that makes the rubber hold it's shape under continous surface friction for vehicle and bicyle tires and once again the binding agent for asphalt that you drive your car on everyday.
I have to go to work so need be I'll continue this with you later, but please no more nasty under tones.