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Tuesday, October 23, 2007 • 9:43 AM • 
There's No Crying In Baseball...Or Talk Shows RT @TheEllenShow
Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Cry, and you cry alone ...unless you have a staff and crew that can cry with you. In her monologue today, Ellen say's that it's okay to cry and that the only difference between laughing and crying is that crying is a lot wetter.
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Crying had nothing to do with it. But the fact she did it in front of her millions of fans in order to get her way with a small animal shelter did. She used her considerable power to sway her viewers to pressure and ultimately destroy a small volunteer group. That is demigogery and is unethical.
i dont think that is any thing wrong with crying and i think ellen is the greatest ellen-please dont ever let anyone tell you what to do i am a big big fan of yours.
Hey Ellen, You go girl!!!!
Awesome monologue & title.
I played little league & one day, while playing second base, I caught a line drive and while tagging the player 'sliding back' to second base he slid right in to my face & his helmet cracked a couple teeth and my nose as well. Then I threw the ball to first in time for the returning player to be out as well; a triple play & we won the game. Cool, but, I started to cry leaving the field as I was really happy AND really hurt, my face was bleeding. My nose my mouth, blood everywhere. My teammate ran up to me put his arm around my shoulder and said "THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL." He reminded me that I never got cut any slack because I was the only girl on the team and he added "MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU & DON'T SHOW THAT YOU'RE HURT." I thought to myself, 'self, well, it's obvious I'm hurt, I'm bleeping bleeding, they guys cry when they get hurt, hm, double standard, that sucks.' So I guess I learned that there is no crying in baseball if you're a girl, well, little league anyway. I was grateful he did that because, if I made one mistake, the big guys watching from the stands were like jackals just waiting to pounce if I made any mistake at all. If I missed a ball or made any sort of error someone would yell, "see, girls can't play baseball." People can be so mean and unforgiving, & my DAD always taught me it was good to cry. So, I dunno, don't let the, er, uh, butt-heads, mean people get you down. But you already know that.
I'm sensitive as well and I've also learned (through blog blog blogging all weekend) that I can be obsessive as well. Whew, I have not studied that much since college.
As Gladys would say, just keep on keepin' on & thank you for being you. Take care
Also, when I was a child my dad used to read "Free to Be You And Me" by Marlo Thomas. There's a song that came with it called "It's allright to cry" that dad & I used to sing together so I was confused that day on the baseball field when blood was pouring from my face and ...."NO CRYING"...like, ok, whatever
Love ya & thanks for making me laugh (& cry...teee heee)
I laughed so hard on that show that coffee came out my nose. (Crying does not do that)
Hi,
Thank you, Ellen (and Gerrie), for reminding us of what is important -- laughing, being happy, being aware of the beauty that surrounds us. Being happy is so much more important than being right about everything. And humor is everything. You can approach subjects that would otherwise be too uncomfortable, and you can educate many people with humor -- without anger or hostility. So, to the vegan(s) and anti-veal folks who thought that sprouts being compared to veal was horrible -- it's a joke -- Ellen tells jokes. She was eating sprouts, not veal. If anything, Ellen used humor to further your cause. I'm anti-veal, too. If more vegans had senses of humor, maybe more people would listen to them. Thank you, Ellen.
I used to watch your sitcom a lot. It was hilarious.) I haven't seen but a few minutes here and there of your talk show. (I'm rarely home during the day -- and I‘m not into most talk shows.) I will, however, be watching and logging on more in the future. I will watch because you make me laugh, because you are basically a decent person, and because you bring humor and happiness to so many people. And you mostly do good things.
To everyone out there (on both sides of the Iggy or whatever argument) -- enough of these mean personal attacks, especially ones aimed at sweet people like Gerri Van Rooij. (I'll get back to that later.) Gerri, I really hope you are a real person. And please don't get caught up in all this nasty stuff and name-calling and become them.
I first came to this website (and several others) to get info on the Iggy situation and form my own opinion. I was very alarmed by the tone and level of anger -- from both sides, not to mention the one-sidedness and demonization of the other side -- by both sides. My conclusion was that there was enough blame to be shared by all in this situation, that noone (not Ellen, Portia, Marina, Vanessa, the hairdresser and her family…) acted appropriately/ responsibly, that egos got in the way, that noone acted in Iggy's best interest. (Ellen has since apologized, by the way, and that should have been the end of it.)
Even more than the Iggy situation, I was concerned with the hatred and nastiness being exchanged. And quite honestly, it was not hard to believe that some of these people might have harassed and threatened the women from M&M. I posted ONE!!!! brief comment about this, noting the nastiness and apparent obsessive nature of some fans (and "anonymous"-- or one of the many “anonymous‘s“ -- who I still think is Marina or Vanessa or a close friend/ relative). To "V" or "T" -- or whoever the one-letter person who said I was "anonymous" -- no I'm not, I have a life -- and I'm not mean, nasty, hateful or vindictive. Well, maybe just a little. (That’s called a joke -- or is it? Nya-ha-ha!!!)
To the ladies of M&M, your lives/ careers are not ruined. Go to any poll at any other site. The opinions were running about 50-50 the last time I checked. (OOPS, it's gone way down in your favor in the last week, i.e., it appears to not be helping you to keep this going.) It’s up to you whether you make lemonade from these lemons or become obsessed and let it ruin you. I’ve been through worse and came out stronger. If you leave Ellen and her fans alone, I bet none of them will remember you in two weeks. At this point you are losing the support of people like me who came into this undecided.
To Ellen’s fans: Ignore them. Don’t give them an audience, and they’ll get tired and go away. And leave the M&M folks alone. This crap needs to be over before something really bad happens.
To the jerk who was nasty to Gerrie (the real reason I‘m writing): what is wrong with you???!! I really did not intend to enter this discussion again, but you really ticked me off. Even when I listed the obsessed fans (many of whom I still think are Ellen’s staff) who worried me (which I probably could have worded much nicer -- yes, I APOLOGIZE), was Gerrie there??!.. NO!!! Why not?! Because if you read anything she wrote, there was not a mean word or thought to it. She is clearly a sweet, nice person trying to have a little fun and better herself by improving her English. At worst, she’s a little odd, but who isn’t? The only thing she ever said to you people was “be happy”. That sure deserves your nastiness. And what do you find to pick on -- her spelling and grammar, not anything she did wrong or said that was offensive. No, you are a bully, and you thought you’d pick on someone that appeared less educated or intelligent, i.e., an easy target. Coward, even a jerk like you should be ashamed of that one. I think you were one of the many “anonymous” posters, but I could be wrong. So for the rest of this letter, you are “The Ugly American”.
To Gerrie: I apologize for “The Ugly American”. I think your English is great. In the less than two weeks I’ve been logging onto this website, it has improved a lot. I’m not good at other languages. I can’t think in another language. I’m always translating in my head. Keep working at it -- and be happy. Don’t let the jerks of the world discourage you. They are the minority, even if they are louder.
And one little teensy suggestion re: pet adoptions in general to Ellen (and others). If you (anyone) want to save/ rescue an animal and you might not keep it (for any reason), go to a pound or shelter that puts animals to sleep. Even if you don’t keep it, you have saved an animal’s life. An animal already rescued and in a no-kill setting needs a stable permanent home. And noone give any animal to a stranger… for free, as these “free” animals are often sold to laboratories, used as bait by dogfighters… That’s all.
No, I lied. One more "one more" thing. About the whole lesbian thing. I'm not even a lesbian, and I am offended by a few comments I've seen about it. To:Cathy (I think) -- Ellen is an individual. I for one do not see her mistake as an embarassment to all lesbians or even related to whether or not she is a lesbian at all. She apologized -- on the air. She does not owe a personal apology to every person or even every lesbian on the planet. And to the intolerant person who said those of us who have "forgiven" Ellen for being a lesbian will not forgive this. Ellen (make that noone) does not need forgiveness from you or anyone for being what she is. But maybe you do.
Now, be happy, all of you -- or I’ll write another long letter and bore you all to death.
Gail L.
What a great monologue it really struck a chord with me. For years I've been told to toughen up, to hide my emotions and to stop being so sensitive. Many people tell me they can tell just by looking at my eyes how I am feeling. Like Ellen, I give a lot to others and wear my heart on my sleeve and sometimes that leaves us wide open to disappointment with other people's actions or attitudes.
I started a new job this year (contract) and was honest in my interview explaining that it was my dream to work in another field (TV). The company acknowledged this and said they wouldn't stand in my way of progression. After a while I shared that I admired this show as a trained TV practitioner and as a fan of Ellen with my colleagues.
I explained that I was hoping to come and see a taping of the show during a trip to LA in September and spoke of how it was a dream of mine to work on the show. I worked away in my spare time and wekends creating a showreel of work and made a spoof video to get Ellen's team's attention.
Some colleague's attitudes towards me started to change and soon after I received confirmation of tickets for a taping of the show I was called into the MD's office. I was told 2 weeks before my vacation that because of my wish to work on the show and because of my plans to go to America researching the possibilities of employment that they would not be honouring my contract on my return.
I was gob smacked, I couldn't believe the undertone and that in this day and age prejudices and jealousy still run so deep.
I will now, in the run up to Christmas be seeking employment rather than enjoying the festivities, but you know what, although I feel let down, I will not change who I am as a person. Maybe I was wrong to share my dreams and goals openly with new colleagues but at least I can go home at night knowing I did a good days work, that I am a caring honest person who was straight with them from the beginning and kept my end of the deal.
Unfortunately people have jumped to conclusions and I have been wrongly judged and lessons have been learned. Prejudices that I thought were beginning to be a thing of the past are still rife amongst some narrow minded people in my community and that upsets me. There also seems to be a culture here that doesn't like to see individuals have dreams never mind fulfilling them and that upsets me. Jealousy is a horrible thing.
Will this episode stop me being honest and open about the people and things I believe in? Probably not. Will Ellen stop being open on her show? Probably not.
I sympathise with Ellen's ordeal last week. Without knowing all the facts I do not wish to comment, though like me, I think she was too trusting of certain individuals and as a result of their actions she has been let down. Again, jealousy and narrow mindedness have raised their ugly heads here.
I wish the show every success and I am looking forward to watching this new season that just started this week in the UK.
Soooooo right.
You rule Ellen. When you're right, you're right. WTG. Happy to see you back.
Posted by Human Being | October 26, 2007 10:28 AM
"gail" = "Anonymous" the biggest Ellen basher/ stalker on these boards. nice try nutjob. get a life.
To Ellen/ her staff (I hope you actually read these):
I posted a comment about an hour ago and one several days ago (both re: Iggy). I've not been able to find either on your website. However, in the past hour since posting my 2nd comment, I've been reading alot of the comments here, as well as under "Iggy" and "Doggone..." (where I posted my 1st comment). I was actually looking for my comments but started reading many of the others.
I'm not writing about the Iggy situation this time. I am a retired social worker. I have a masters degree in social work (MSW) as well as 2 years graduate work in Criminal Justice Administration (law enforcement/ correctional counselling...) I have worked many years in mental health and corrections.
I am very alarmed by some of the clearly obsessed people sending in dozens of angry comments for days in a row -- on both sides -- and truly am concerned for your safety. I'm assuming the one or two people who keep posting multiple pro-M&M comments are the women from M&M or their close friends... They are not the ones who concern me.
But there are a few who really concern me who appear to be on your side, obsessively and bizarrely so. These few people have posted hundreds of long, wierd comments on your website in only a few days. They must have spent more time doing this and reading others' comments than most people spend on a full-time job. If these people are not working for you, they are potential stalkers. Be very very concerned. A few of the more noticeable/ creepy ones are "Karen aka Ellen's Newest Fan", "Barb", and "Jones".
And I still think you were wrong on the Iggy thing. Please make this right.
I won't write about this again. I don't want to become one of the nuts -- and I have a life.
THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE MONOLOGUES YET, IF NOT MY MOST FAVOURITE. ELLEN HANDLED THIS VERY WELL. A MIX OF HUMOUR AND SERIOUSNESS. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH ELLEN. IT IS OKAY TO CRY AND TO BE SENSITIVE AND NOT TO CONFORM TO THE STOIC SOCIETY THAT WE'RE LIVING IN. WE NEED EMPATHY, WE NEED COMPASSION, WE NEED TO BE TRUE AND SHOW OUR EMOTIONS, WE NEED TO BE AFFECTIONATE AND BE LOVING IN EVERY BREATH WE TAKE.
I just want to put a quick note. I never posted until this Iggy situation and I probably never will again. Ellen is human. That's the bottom line. She makes mistakes. Whether or not you are "on her side" or not isn't the point. She is doing what she thinks is best and has a right to be true to herself. I watch her show to laugh and that is what I will continue to do. I love animals and I don't watch the show because of that. I have worked for rescues and I don't watch the show for that. I watch the show to laugh and that is something Ellen is great at making me do...laugh. So, even though I doubt Ellen reads these, if per chance she should...keep up the good work! You are awesome at your job which is making me laugh! I am also okay at sharing your sad times. Helps keep it real don't you think? We all have sad times. So as Gladys said "Keep on, keeping on". Whatever happened to her? Now she was funny too!
ronni
Saint Ellen vs. the devil (Marina)! Folks, however you portray it, the dog is gone and nobody right now is fighting to get it back. If Iggy was taken from the family illegally, why isn't Saint Ellen suing?
BATKIS IS EVIL!
She could have 'evaluated' the family that Ellen sent the puppy to.
Instead she play SUPER JERK and took the dog away from the home in front of the Dog's CHILD!
She insisted when she went to the home that the dog wouldn't be removed from the home.
And that is precisely what that LYING, CONIEVING, and EVIL #*$%& did!
And then she 'said' that she'd 'evaluate' the family, and then libled and slandered that family so they'll be lucky if they are ever able to adopt a dog or any pet again.
The ANGER against this person is WELL DESERVED.
YES, Ellen should have read the contract better.
But this?
GIVE RUBY BACK "HER" DOG BATKIS!!!!
hallo everybody
i will say one more thing about this whole story,
and then i stop,it is over,closed.
i think this is what happend
whe all have set Ellen on a base,pedestal
Ellen whas us example
whe all look op to here
she whas the one who make us laugh,tell jokes,
when whe had a bad day Ellen whas the one who did us feel better
and whe all want to be us Ellen
but now whe have see a other Ellen
a Ellen who can make mistakes
a Ellen who can cry
and now whe are disapointed
WHY ??????????????????????
i dont no !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for me she is the same Ellen
even more,because i did now see the real Ellen
AND I LOVE THAT WOMAN
hallo everybody
i will say one more thing about this whole story,
and then i stop,it is over,closed.
i think this is what happend
whe all have set Ellen on a base,pedestal
Ellen whas us example
whe all look op to here
she whas the one who make us laugh,tell jokes,
when whe had a bad day Ellen whas the one who did us feel better
and whe all want to be us Ellen
but now whe have see a other Ellen
a Ellen who can make mistakes
a Ellen who can cry
and now whe are disapointed
WHY ??????????????????????
i dont no !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for me she is the same Ellen
even more,because i did now see the real Ellen
AND I LOVE THAT WOMAN
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Theres_no_crying_in_baseballor.. Slap-up :)
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